London & North Western 0-8-0 Locomotives in Great_Britain (2024)


Class Details by Steve Llanso of Sweat House Media

Class 2524 (Locobase 2180)

Data from C J Bowen Cooke "British Locomotives", (London: Whitaker & Co, 1894)

Larger freight engine that started a trend. The boiler had a 39.7 sq ft (3.69 sq m) of heating surface in a combustion chamber in the center of the barrel. Bowen Cooke asserts that placing this chamber in the middle of the tube length "...has the effect of arresting the gases as they pass from the firebox, thus securing more perfect combustion, and causing all the heat developed to be fully utilized for the generation of steam." Indeed, such chambers did have that effect, but they were usually placed just ahead of the firebox.

Class A (Locobase 2181)

Data from F W Webb, "Development of the Crewe System of Compounding Locomotives," Engineering Review, Volume 2, (20 June 1895), pp. 391-393; and W A Tuplin, The Steam Locomotive: Its Form and Function (New York: Charles Scribner's Sons, 1974), Tank engine of an unusual wheel arrangement by FW Webb. Built between 1881-1890 and in service until 1958.

Like the Teutonics, these 0-8-0s used Stephenson link motion on the outside with a "slip-eccentric" link between the two outside HP cylinders and the single LP cylinder under the smokebox. Unlike the passenger engines, however, the four axles were coupled and all three cylinders drove the second axle. They were soon rebuilt as D-class simple-expansion locomotives by GW Whale.Note: Tuplin gave a nominal tractive effort of 30,000 lb, commenting that it is "that of the simple engine produced by removing the high-pressure cylinders." The number given in the specifications is based on a 1924 ARA formula.

[London & North Western 0-8-0 Locomotives in Great_Britain (1)] (9 May 2003 -- the website of the London & North Western Railway Society's Goods Locomotives "exhibit" -- for boiler diameter.

Class B / Swami (Locobase 2189)

Data from W A Tuplin, The Steam Locomotive: Its Form and Function (New York: Charles Scribner's Sons, 1974), Some data from Christopher Hill (who styles himself "Webb [sic] Master of [London & North Western 0-8-0 Locomotives in Great_Britain (2)] (10 May 2003 -- the website of the London & North Western Railway Society's Goods Locomotives "exhibit".

Four-cylinder Webb compounds that were rebuilt as Whale Class E compounds. Hill's exhibit offers the same harsh verdict usually rendered on most of Webb's designs:"But the bulbous (piano-front covering the rocking arms driving the valves for the outside cylinders could never be elegant and made the design a visual disaster. The weight of cylinders and valve gear at the front was not adequately supported, and was a ñheavy' front end." In its glossary, the site adds that the nickname derived as follows: "swamis were oriental magicians and illusionists popular as entertainers in the late nineteenth century, who always finished their acts by disappearing in a cloud of smoke". Presumably that was the image of the B as it started up.Note: Tuplin (1963) gives a nominal tractive effort of 33,000 lb, commenting that it is "that of the simple engine produced by removing the high-pressure cylinders." The number given in the specifications is based on a 1924 ARA formula.

Class C (Locobase 2182)

Fifteen rebuilds of the unsuccessful Webb freight compounds by George Whale. These engines joined other classes in a further 1912 build by CJ Bowen-Cooke known as the G1 class.

Class D (Locobase 5529)

Data from [London & North Western 0-8-0 Locomotives in Great_Britain (3)], first accessed 10 May 2003); and W A Tuplin, The Steam Locomotive: Its Form and Function (New York: Charles Scribner's Sons, 1974),

George Whale's rebuilds of Webb's A-class locomotives proved to be popular with the crews as they demonstrated useful pulling power. The transformation involved mounting the much larger boiler of the F-class and removing the LP pistons. Tuplin (1963) gave a nominal tractive effort of 30,000 lb, commenting that it is "that of the simple engine produced by removing the high-pressure cylinders." The number given in the specifications is based on a 1924 ARA formula. See

[London & North Western 0-8-0 Locomotives in Great_Britain (4)] (10 May 2003 -- the website of the London & North Western Railway Society's Goods Locomotives "exhibit".

Class G (Locobase 2198)

Bowen-Cooke's initial 0-8-0 design that was also the basis for the G1 series of rebuilt 0-8-0s, into which these engines were incorporated.

According to Christopher Hill (who styles himself "Webb [sic] Master of

[London & North Western 0-8-0 Locomotives in Great_Britain (5)] (20 March 2005) -- the website of the London & North Western Railway Society's Goods Locomotives "exhibit", these locomotives were rebuilds of the B class (which were in turn rebuilds of the A). The HP cylinders were removed and the LP cylinders left as the main power.

Class G1 / Super D (Locobase 2183)

Data from Christopher Hill ("Webb [sic] Master of [London & North Western 0-8-0 Locomotives in Great_Britain (6)] (accessed 19 March 2005) -- the website of the London & North Western Railway Society's Goods Locomotives "exhibit". See also "Superheater Goods Engine, London and North Western Railway," Locomotive Magazine, Volume 18, p. 96-97.

A combination of rebuilds of earlier 0-8-0 designs that incorporated superheating for the first time and newly built engines by Bowen-Cooke. LM reported that the original conversions were to determine whether freight (goods) engines would benefit from superheating to the same extent as passenger locomotives. Their driver diameters were measured with 3" (76.2 mm) tires.They had 8"(203 mm) piston valves.

Class G2 (Locobase 2202)

Data from [London & North Western 0-8-0 Locomotives in Great_Britain (7)] (10 May 2003)

George Whale rebuilds of B, G, & G1 engines similar to the earlier Gs and G1s, but the boiler was reorganized to allow for superheating. The website of the London & North Western Railway Society's Goods Locomotives "exhibit" says these were G1s with superheat and BP raised to 175 psi. Piston valves were a moderate 8" in diameter and the firebox was the relatively common square-shouldered Belpaire.

Class G4S (Locobase 3761)

Data from Bryan Attewell ([London & North Western 0-8-0 Locomotives in Great_Britain (8)] Steam locomotive simulator (April 2000 edition).

Used a Belpaire boiler. This is the last of the London & North Western mineral engines.

Principal Dimensions by Steve Llanso of Sweat House Media

Class2524AB / SwamiCD
Locobase ID2180 2181 2189 2182 5529
RailroadLondon & North WesternLondon & North WesternLondon & North WesternLondon & North WesternLondon & North Western
CountryGreat BritainGreat BritainGreat BritainGreat BritainGreat Britain
Whyte0-8-00-8-00-8-00-8-00-8-0
Number in Class11111701563
Road Numbers2524
GaugeStdStdStdStdStd
Number Built1111170
BuilderL&NW - CreweL&NW - CreweL&NW - CreweL&NW - CreweL&NW - Crewe
Year18921893190119041906
Valve GearJoyStephensonJoyJoyStephenson
Locomotive Length and Weight
Driver Wheelbase (ft / m)17.25 / 5.2617.25 / 5.2617.25 / 5.2617.25 / 5.26
Engine Wheelbase (ft / m)17.25 / 5.2617.25 / 5.2617.25 / 5.2617.25 / 5.26
Ratio of driving wheelbase to overall engine wheelbase1111
Overall Wheelbase (engine & tender) (ft / m)
Axle Loading (Maximum Weight per Axle) (lbs / kg)27,776 / 12,59932,256 / 14,63138,528
Weight on Drivers (lbs / kg)110,097 / 49,939112,000 / 50,802120,960 / 54,867112,000 / 50,802126,000 / 57,153
Engine Weight (lbs / kg)110,097 / 49,939112,000 / 50,802120,960 / 54,867112,000 / 50,802126,000 / 57,153
Tender Loaded Weight (lbs / kg)56,000 / 25,401
Total Engine and Tender Weight (lbs / kg)166,097 / 75,340
Tender Water Capacity (gals / ML)2471 / 9.362160 / 8.183000 / 11.36
Tender Fuel Capacity (oil/coal) (gals/tons / Liters/MT) 5.50 / 5
Minimum weight of rail (calculated) (lb/yd / kg/m)46 / 2347 / 23.5050 / 2547 / 23.5053 / 26.50
Geometry Relating to Tractive Effort
Driver Diameter (in / mm)53 / 134653 / 134653 / 134653 / 134653.50 / 1359
Boiler Pressure (psi / kPa)160 / 11175 / 12.10200 / 13.80165 / 11.40175 / 12.10
High Pressure Cylinders (dia x stroke) (in / mm)19.5" x 24" / 495x61015" x 24" / 381x61016" x 24" / 406x61020.5" x 24" / 521x61019.5" x 24" / 495x610
Low Pressure Cylinders (dia x stroke) (in / mm)30" x 24" / 762x610 (1)20.5" x 24" / 521x610
Tractive Effort (lbs / kg)23,418 / 10622.2418,187 / 8249.4924,494 / 11110.3026,690 / 12106.3925,374 / 11509.47
Factor of Adhesion (Weight on Drivers/Tractive Effort) 4.70 6.16 4.94 4.20 4.97
Heating Ability
Tubes (number - dia) (in / mm)210 - 1.875" / 48
Flues (number - dia) (in / mm)
Flue/Tube length (ft / m)13.33 / 4.06
Firebox Area (sq ft / m2)127.02 / 11.80115 / 10.69123 / 11.43123 / 11.43
Grate Area (sq ft / m2)20.50 / 1.9020.50 / 1.9120.80 / 1.9320.50 / 1.9123.60 / 2.19
Evaporative Heating Surface (sq ft / m2)1274 / 118.361490 / 138.481753 / 162.921753 / 162.922043 / 189.80
Superheating Surface (sq ft / m2)
Combined Heating Surface (sq ft / m2)1274 / 118.361490 / 138.481753 / 162.921753 / 162.922043 / 189.80
Evaporative Heating Surface/Cylinder Volume153.57303.54313.87191.20246.27
Computations Relating to Power Output (More Information)
Robert LeMassena's Power Computation32803588416033834130
Same as above plus superheater percentage32803588416033834130
Same as above but substitute firebox area for grate area20,32320,12524,60020,295
Power L13252325145633764
Power MT260.48255.97332.66296.36

Principal Dimensions by Steve Llanso of Sweat House Media

ClassGG1 / Super DG2G4S
Locobase ID2198 2183 2202 3761
RailroadLondon & North WesternLondon & North WesternLondon & North WesternLondon & North Western
CountryGreat BritainGreat BritainGreat BritainGreat Britain
Whyte0-8-00-8-00-8-00-8-0
Number in Class6044960
Road Numbers
GaugeStdStdStdStd
Number Built60170
BuilderL&NW - CreweL&NW - CreweL&NW - CreweL&NW - Crewe
Year1906191219211923
Valve GearJoyJoyJoyStephenson
Locomotive Length and Weight
Driver Wheelbase (ft / m)17.25 / 5.2617.25 / 5.2617.25 / 5.26
Engine Wheelbase (ft / m)17.25 / 5.2617.25 / 5.2617.25 / 5.26
Ratio of driving wheelbase to overall engine wheelbase111
Overall Wheelbase (engine & tender) (ft / m)41.10 / 12.53
Axle Loading (Maximum Weight per Axle) (lbs / kg)39,200 / 17,78139,200 / 17,781
Weight on Drivers (lbs / kg)132,160 / 59,947136,640 / 61,979138,880 / 62,995138,880 / 62,995
Engine Weight (lbs / kg)132,160 / 59,947136,640 / 61,979138,880 / 62,995138,880 / 62,995
Tender Loaded Weight (lbs / kg)87,920 / 39,88088,480 / 40,134
Total Engine and Tender Weight (lbs / kg)224,560 / 101,859227,360 / 103,129
Tender Water Capacity (gals / ML)3600 / 13.643000 / 11.36
Tender Fuel Capacity (oil/coal) (gals/tons / Liters/MT) 6.60 / 6 7.20 / 7
Minimum weight of rail (calculated) (lb/yd / kg/m)55 / 27.5057 / 28.5058 / 2958 / 29
Geometry Relating to Tractive Effort
Driver Diameter (in / mm)53 / 134653.50 / 135953 / 134653.50 / 1359
Boiler Pressure (psi / kPa)160 / 11160 / 11175 / 12.10175 / 12.10
High Pressure Cylinders (dia x stroke) (in / mm)20.5" x 24" / 521x61020.5" x 24" / 521x61020.5" x 24" / 521x61020.5" x 24" / 521x610
Tractive Effort (lbs / kg)25,881 / 11739.4425,639 / 11629.6728,307 / 12839.8528,043 / 12720.11
Factor of Adhesion (Weight on Drivers/Tractive Effort) 5.11 5.33 4.91 4.95
Heating Ability
Tubes (number - dia) (in / mm)159 - 1.875" / 48
Flues (number - dia) (in / mm)24 - 5" / 127
Flue/Tube length (ft / m)14.83 / 4.5214.75 / 4.50
Firebox Area (sq ft / m2)147 / 13.66146.70 / 13.63147 / 13.66
Grate Area (sq ft / m2)23.60 / 2.1923.60 / 2.1923.60 / 2.1923.60 / 2.19
Evaporative Heating Surface (sq ft / m2)2043 / 189.871772 / 164.621692 / 157.191580 / 146.84
Superheating Surface (sq ft / m2)380 / 35.30360 / 33.44359 / 33.36
Combined Heating Surface (sq ft / m2)2043 / 189.872152 / 199.922052 / 190.631939 / 180.20
Evaporative Heating Surface/Cylinder Volume222.83193.27184.55172.33
Computations Relating to Power Output (More Information)
Robert LeMassena's Power Computation3776377641304130
Same as above plus superheater percentage3776445648734915
Same as above but substitute firebox area for grate area23,52027,69730,356
Power L1428292209555
Power MT285.72595.04606.71

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